Introduction


Presented in reverse chronology, this history stretches from the present back to the Fellowship's 1970 founding, and beyond.
(See "Blog Archive" in the sidebar below.) It draws from many sources, including The Fellowship of Friends - Living Presence Discussion, the Internet Archive, the former Fellowship of Friends wiki project, cult education and awareness sites, news archives, and from the editor's own 13-year experience in the Fellowship.

The portrait that emerges stands in stark contrast to sanitized versions presented on the Fellowship's array of
alluring websites, and on derivative sites created by Burton's now-estranged
disciple, Asaf Braverman.

Saturday, December 13, 2008

"Daily Cardiac" helps us understand consensual sex

[ed. - Inspired by "Daily Cardiac's" lessons:]



[ed. - It should be understood, "Daily Cardiac's" matter-of-fact treatment of Robert's sexuality is only possible because in the mid-1990s Robert was forced to reveal what he had attempted, via all means necessary, to conceal for twenty-five years. Of course, it would be characteristic of Cardiac to suggest "he didn't do a very good job of keeping it secret." But that would not be for lack of trying. Enjoy Cardiac's fantasy!]  

"dick moron" posted the following on the Fellowship of Friends Discussion blog, December 13, 2008:
I had to dig through the old blog pages to find this gem from Daily Cardiac, but it is worth revisiting. This guy has to be Ethan Har-is or a clone. [ed. - or more likely a "team", including Linda T.] Probably not Ethan, since the good “Doctor” is probably overworked prescribing mind-numbing drugs to needy patients in order to keep up with his vigorous FOF donation schedule. ____________________________ Wisdom From DC:
Traveler:
“Can you imagine how being in a sexual relationship that is not quite voluntary and consensual, could exist simultaneously with stunted spirituality?”
This is an important point; a stunted spirituality, as my experience tells me, has little to do with difficult externals or unfavorable circumstances or pressure. In fact it’s often just the opposite; where adversity strengthens spirituality. A stunted spirituality has more to do with individual effort or lack of effort. If we make the correct spiritual efforts we will grow in spirit.
One other point of note: People can say no. The importance of this fact cannot be overstated. Like the old drug commercials “Just Say No.” Some people are angry at themselves today because they could not muster the courage to say no and they then transfer that self anger into blame of the asker.
There are many ways to say no to the kind of sex Robert asks for. Robert’s role in sex is well documented. He plays the female part with another male. The other male is required to penetrate Robert which necessitates an erect penis. Generally speaking an erect penis is achieved by being aroused sexually. Arousal usually indicates a desire or ability to engage in sex.
If I were a homosexual male being penetrated sexually by another male I would not have cause to believe the partner was being traumatized as the act of penetration would strongly suggest otherwise. I would be more inclined to believe the partner was being, at least to some degree, stimulated sexually.
I’m a heterosexual male with a normal sex drive. There have been a few instances in my life when a female who was attracted to me wanted sex and I was not equally attracted to her. In most of those cases I could not achieve an erection even though a part of me wanted to go through with it. (I should mention it happened much more that I was the one attracted and the female not so much and I never got the chance.)
I’ve also been in situations where there was some other apprehension (pressure) involved and even though I was attracted to someone and the opportunity was there I could not achieve an erection.
I would think that if a male really felt violated, repulsed or put out by the act he would not be able to achieve an erection and that would have settled that. That would have been a loud and clear NO!
This is something to seriously consider when people use the extreme language that they were “raped” by Robert or that the FoF is a “rape factory.”
Fellatio also falls under this same set of conditions.
What about orgasms? Are people manipulated or coerced into having them?
It is also of note to mention that no one has ever lost any normal privileges by saying no to Robert’s requests for sex. No one has been sent from the school, sent to a faraway center, humiliated, ostracized by other students, prevented from attending meetings or events, or have been restricted in any other way for saying no.
_____________ And the holocaust never happened either.
[ed. - For more lessons with "Daily Cardiac", read "The Queen of the Night moonlights in forensics".]

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